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Post by Magiaz on Aug 24, 2007 23:08:02 GMT 8
Me and Ferox have a dream gun. I made this jpg using google image and 9026 hours in ms paint.  What say you all? Don't know if the silencer will combine with the ag36, and it'll probably end up too heavy with the drum mag as well. Also cost a bit I imagine... |
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Post by Ferox on Aug 24, 2007 23:11:10 GMT 8
Its supposed to run at 2j. Minimum, you're looking at a cost of $3000 just to make one, and that's if you use China parts, don't get me started on Japanese parts. This gun is partially constructed in Noa's house. If he bought a drum and scope...  But It's Riots gun, and she says she doesn't want it violated in such a manner.   Code name is ID-1 (Instant Death !111one) Aptly named the Obliterator, for obvious reasons. Good mascot? ;D |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 24, 2007 23:31:28 GMT 8
Though I think I'll be content keeping mine at 1.6J. ;p
Currently Noa's helping me mod up a Chinese SL8 i got to 1.6, and also getting the G36 rail / Silencer on. Ferox will also be donating a red dot sight to me later.
I imagine that'd do me fine, and the drum and GL I could add later without too much trouble I think.
At 1.6J, I'm putting my total cost estimate at $2200 for the gun and accessories...
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Post by yonathanho on Aug 29, 2007 15:15:42 GMT 8
 receiver: G36 magazine and magwell: m82 foregrip and barrel: shortened m82 bottom scope: OICW trigger and pistol grip: OICW Stock: m4 cheekrest: SL8/9 top scope: from pic of AK47 Grenade Launcher: RG6 WIN! |
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Post by GruntGuy on Aug 29, 2007 15:51:45 GMT 8
Oh jesus christ almighty on a tricycle.
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Post by woozie on Aug 29, 2007 18:48:02 GMT 8
 HK427  HK 50.cal  L85A3  L85A3 GL with Canadian ELCAN |
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Post by Ferox on Aug 29, 2007 19:33:14 GMT 8
Guys lol, as much as I like your designs, this is about a real project, not a chance to swap ideas...so get out  and make your own thread if you plan on making it  |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 29, 2007 19:42:46 GMT 8
lol this is fine. ;p The idea's are interesting...
Though I'm curious as to what people think of our design? Good / bad / won't work? Needs more of less of X?
For the barret one, woulden't the GL trigger be kinda hard to get to? lol
The L85A3 is a really interesting design, since you could get the primary and secondary trigger so close together... Although I wonder if having the gearbox and gl at the front would make it a little too heavy near the barrel? But then again if you have both hands there might be fine...
Another thought I had was maybe applying a stock power small machine pistol in place of the grenade launcher, either with lots of rail work or welding. That way could have a high power primary for sniping, and have a low power option so you don't have to worry about hurting anyone up close. Perhaps a bit excessive, which is sort of the point.
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Post by -Riot- on Aug 29, 2007 19:54:58 GMT 8
Whoa Wooz, those look like actual airsoft rifles. O.o As for that obliterator gun.....i must admit, it looks sweet but definately not something i could ever handle due to the massive weight on me little self.. *le sigh*  But my SL9 is the sex already, she just needs to dress up for the occation. ;D |
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Post by Ferox on Aug 29, 2007 19:57:41 GMT 8
Another thought I had was maybe applying a stock power small machine pistol in place of the grenade launcher, either with lots of rail work or welding. That way could have a high power primary for sniping, and have a low power option so you don't have to worry about hurting anyone up close. Perhaps a bit excessive, which is sort of the point. MP7, rail adapter, stick it to the side of the AG36? Yes please! Paint that into your concept design Ralph! |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 29, 2007 20:04:26 GMT 8
I meant instead of the AG36, not in addition to.
I'd rather not have more triggers than hands.
An MP7 would be preferable out of sheer awesome, although I suspect it may be too large to actually realistically attach to a handguard. Thinking something smaller like a Mac or a MP5k. Though MP7 is definitely first first choice if it'll work.
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Post by Ferox on Aug 29, 2007 20:02:35 GMT 8
Yer I mention the Mp7 since it default comes with rails along all sides, so you just need an adapter to stick it to the ND-1, with or without the AG36. But it should be on the side of the AG36! What happens when you fire your GL and then you need to fire again but no time to reload!!!  Add it to the picture, just for the lulz at least. |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 29, 2007 20:38:05 GMT 8
Ferox's suggestion:  Edit: lol its ferox's suggestion done wrong. ignore. |
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Post by Ferox on Aug 29, 2007 20:49:44 GMT 8
;D  Like this:  lol on second thought, nevermind! Just stick to having a holster! |
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Post by woozie on Aug 29, 2007 21:31:50 GMT 8
I like hacking your thread Ferox ;D
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 29, 2007 22:35:43 GMT 8
 DEFEND YOURSELF FROM EVERY DIRECTION! Also, the hand guard / rail on the HK427 is awesome. "due to the massive weight" Well the drum mag could be replaced by standard high caps if need be, changing the ag36 hang guard with a standard one should be fairly simple, and replacing the metal silencer with a short plastic nozzle would all reduce it to standard weight, so if it got too heavy it wouldn't be too much of a prob to bring back it down to normal size / weight between games. If I take the dead weight out as well it might help a bit. So its not only uber and completely overdone, it can also transform into a normal / realistically usable gun without any tools / effort. Adaptability ftw. |
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Post by Ninja on Aug 29, 2007 23:56:56 GMT 8
that reminded me of a bad game at tetris
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Post by yonathanho on Aug 30, 2007 7:42:05 GMT 8
is it just me or does the l85a3 look like a new bushmaster?
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Post by Fightingcock on Aug 30, 2007 23:44:52 GMT 8
wwwooooo neeelly.  need to think about this... should the obliterator be 1 gun.. the one of us have... and the rest of us... get to see it a few times a year... if we llucky. or something... we can all have 1 off... and acheave in a reasonable price range.. also... the defination of obliterator... doesn't reaaly stand up with.. a soft airgun... lol.  although... theres some preeedy varients above eg: the 50cal for me please so... don't end it yet...  just maybe... a name change  FC |
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Post by woozie on Aug 31, 2007 1:00:02 GMT 8
actually, building the L85A3 shouldn't be difficult, a Famas, a L85a1, a 36 handle and a ELCAN
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 31, 2007 14:13:21 GMT 8
Well once I get my original obli design done, I'm not going to need it in uk so I might as well leave it with someone here.
Well the name was supposed to be relevant to the clan / dramatic effect (or the laughs at least) as opposed to actually obliterating things...
If we go for designing some big uber gun design, I wouldn't object to having other people use it / passing it along for games I wouldn't be attending, making it semi clan property over my own (just i wanna use it if I'm present).
Out of all the airsofting O's, what percentage attends each game at any one time? Don't unnecessarily need one for each person.
As for a clan gun that everyone could have use, we sort of have something in the g36c, being cheap, effective, reliable etc, though its not really personalised towards the clan. If we could get an affordable effective gun with a customised image / a sort of obliterator signature gun design, we could probably order a whole bunch of the parts in bulk once we had a prototype.
Also I'm not saying my design should be the definitive obliterator, just nominating it. If we do end up with a standardised build, I reckon it'd be decent since it gives a long and short range option, and most of the more excessive parts can be replaced with more normal components pretty much in the field, so its adaptable.
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Post by Goliath on Aug 31, 2007 14:18:30 GMT 8
TBH, the G36c is, in itself, a brilliant AEG - it's small, compact and has a inner barrel that is very near the "perfect" length.
All we'd need to do is get a load of JG G36cs, fit them with CA tightbores, better hop-up rubbers and a gearbox overhaul and rewiring for each one, and there you are - a very good, very affordable AEG. If we really had the cash, we could even directly ask JG to engrave OB trademarks into the bodies.
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Post by Noa on Aug 31, 2007 15:20:53 GMT 8
TBH, the G36c is, in itself, a brilliant AEG - it's small, compact and has a inner barrel that is very near the "perfect" length. All we'd need to do is get a load of JG G36cs, fit them with CA tightbores, better hop-up rubbers and a gearbox overhaul and rewiring for each one, and there you are - a very good, very affordable AEG. If we really had the cash, we could even directly ask JG to engrave OB trademarks into the bodies. Good stuff Goliath. Yes I agree with you. Opening it up is quick and easy too. Now what can we do to customise the G36C? Besides after-market ADD-ONS? I like the idea of bolting on/supergluing on a SMG to the side or bottom kekeke. |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 31, 2007 19:20:35 GMT 8
 Relevant to your interests? The main reason I wanted to stick an SMG on originally was to give a full auto 1J on a 1.6J+ gun, so I could shoot people within 10m. Having two guns stuck together with similar joulage seems a bit needless, though it depends what power we'd be having in the 36's? Well if my (SL8) Obilterator concept doesn't serve, I'll call it Teliko ;p |
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Post by Goliath on Aug 31, 2007 22:00:15 GMT 8
Stock JG G36c = 1.3J
To customise past the standard aftermarket accessories...
Hmm...
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Post by Ferox on Aug 31, 2007 22:02:31 GMT 8
Stock JG G36c = 1.3J To customise past the standard aftermarket accessories... Hmm... He's talking about his SL-8, the topic of this thread which has greatly deviated since then, remember? I don't! I didn't even mention it! |
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Post by Noa on Aug 31, 2007 22:05:14 GMT 8
Relevant to your interests? The main reason I wanted to stick an SMG on originally was to give a full auto 1J on a 1.6J+ gun, so I could shoot people within 10m. Having two guns stuck together with similar joulage seems a bit needless, though it depends what power we'd be having in the 36's? Well if my Obilterator concept doesn't serve, I'll call it Teliko ;p Yes. Relavent. A full auto on a 1.6J gun so I could shoot within 10m Thinking about putting my M93R onto the lower rail. It can attach a scope mount. |
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Post by Ferox on Aug 31, 2007 22:14:28 GMT 8
Do they sell rail adapters? I've never seen one before.
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Post by Noa on Aug 31, 2007 22:16:49 GMT 8
Do they sell rail adapters? I've never seen one before. Japanese companies laylax and nitro Vo sells em. |
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Post by Magiaz on Aug 31, 2007 22:54:56 GMT 8
Okay, so for a clan gun people seem to agree on the g36c as the basis, and souping it up.
Suggestions being to get obliterator engravings or similar on the side...
and / or upping the power for long range ability, and attaching a lower power SMG for close range.
"this thread which has greatly deviated"
Well I originally posted asking for advice on my gun idea (which I haven't received lol). Though it seems to have been interpreted as a 'dream gun / perfect gun' thread, and evolved into discussion of a clan gun, after the added notion that a perfect gun should be affordable for all.
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and make your own thread if you plan on making it
