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Post by woozie on Feb 3, 2007 2:19:33 GMT 8
Is it possible to do such a thing? like a JG SVD but much more handsome? I did a illustrator + photoshop image of both together, see what you think Woozie
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Post by Noa on Feb 3, 2007 15:52:24 GMT 8
Yes and No.
You can fit the SVD PSO scope via the side scope mount.
But for the handguard you'd have to stick with fake wood AK47 to SVD conversion kit for the front barrel.
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Post by woozie on Feb 4, 2007 2:07:49 GMT 8
The Handguard will be custom made (if I decide to do it..) since it is a AK74 type handguard.. Barrel is a SVD yes... I wonder what other guns I can cross breed, that still look normal... Woozie
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Post by sirrith on Feb 4, 2007 20:01:30 GMT 8
can you please try and cross a PSG-1 with a tanaka SAA? ;D
you could always try mp5 with m4.. dunno how that'd turn out though
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Post by woozie on Feb 5, 2007 3:55:07 GMT 8
I try to cross breed guns that are RELATIVE to each other, since that won't look too awkard, But I can always try if I got enough time that is... Wander how MP5 cross with PSG-1 will look like Woozie
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Post by pestexterminator on Feb 5, 2007 18:45:57 GMT 8
umm - look up the HK 94 - some wierdo MP5 DMR makes me wanna barf
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Post by sirrith on Feb 5, 2007 18:56:29 GMT 8
why anyone would want a 9mm DMR is beyond my knowledge..
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Post by Arclight on Feb 6, 2007 16:17:49 GMT 8
Just a few ideas off the top of my head...
The ability to task a tactical squads' DM rifleman with an accurate weapon in moderate ranged urban environemnent in to a target zone where minimum risk of fatality and over-penetration is prefered (like a knife weidling criminal in a fairly crowded room)?
The ability to arm a DM rifleman with a weapon in such ranges but with the potential to engage bursts and full-auto so as to minimise over penetration but still provide significat stoping capability on unarmored suspects?
Using an MP5 chamered in 10 mm Auto or .40 S&W to supply higher powered short cartridges accuratley and over range with the possibility of accurate burst fire? (UMP might be similar, but MP5 is more robust, slightly more accurate and achives hirer rates of fire)
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Post by sirrith on Feb 6, 2007 18:14:07 GMT 8
knife wielding criminal in crowded room.. i doubt they'd be authorised to fire. gun wielding criminal, possibility of authorisation, but still doubtful. police can be very picky about risking civilian lives (mostly because they could get sued ) but i guess thats the best reason second point.. the hk94 is semi only, the replica below is airsoft (and therefore was equipped with F/A) and AFAIK its only chambered for 9mm x19
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Post by Fightingcock on Feb 8, 2007 19:06:47 GMT 8
ha.... Morphed.... ;D FC
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Post by Arclight on Feb 10, 2007 0:14:57 GMT 8
OH
The MOST important reason, dunno why I din't think of it first...
...for the civilian market. For those that want to buy the MP5 but obviously can't bypass the full-auto ordenance laws, they have to buy the semi-only variant. As such, they can opt for regular size or longer if they want to maximise accuracy and range (as the increase in size aint so much an issue for hunters as SWAT, and the weight doesn't change all that much, so it's an acceptable alteration).
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Post by GruntGuy on Feb 12, 2007 20:16:13 GMT 8
OMG I love that MP5 DMR..
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Post by woozie on Mar 7, 2007 4:03:12 GMT 8
gave the pic a finish touch.... Woozie
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Post by sirrith on Mar 7, 2007 16:06:33 GMT 8
= hate = love if the stock and handguard were wood (i have a thing against "modern" or "tactical" AKs)
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Post by woozie on Mar 7, 2007 20:53:14 GMT 8
I will give it a try then...
Woozie
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Post by malavern on Mar 9, 2007 20:00:47 GMT 8
hmmm tasty.... me likey
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Post by ironlord on Mar 27, 2007 11:46:48 GMT 8
Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but why bother?
That gun looks almost identical to the AK74... sure, longer barrel + handguard... but that's not enough of a change to warrant doing the work.
You'd be better off getting an RPK74, I think.
All.
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Post by Fightingcock on Mar 27, 2007 13:26:01 GMT 8
lol yes! even in AA.. the RPK makes a great single shot sniping weapon... just with the iron sights... ;D would totally pwn with a scope FC
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Post by aznsk8s87 on Apr 5, 2007 23:33:02 GMT 8
Just a few ideas off the top of my head... The ability to task a tactical squads' DM rifleman with an accurate weapon in moderate ranged urban environemnent in to a target zone where minimum risk of fatality and over-penetration is prefered (like a knife weidling criminal in a fairly crowded room)? The ability to arm a DM rifleman with a weapon in such ranges but with the potential to engage bursts and full-auto so as to minimise over penetration but still provide significat stoping capability on unarmored suspects? Using an MP5 chamered in 10 mm Auto or .40 S&W to supply higher powered short cartridges accuratley and over range with the possibility of accurate burst fire? (UMP might be similar, but MP5 is more robust, slightly more accurate and achives hirer rates of fire)I'm going to have to disagree with you. If it doesn't hit any bone (and in some cases, even if it does) the 9mm will easily pass through a body and has no "stopping power". This is why all my cousins prefer handguns with a .40 S&W. The only way a 9mm will REALLY bring down a person when shot to the chest is either a well aimed shot, a LOT of really random shots, or one or two hollow points which prevent penetration. That said... Having fired various small caliber weapons (.22's, 9mm, .40, .45) I've found that the 9mm is the most accurate. .40's are still fairly accurate but if shot repeatedly lose accuracy, as does the .45. The .22 is damn near useless, though. Er... yes, for the civilian market, but I think they're restricted to using magazines of 15 or less or something ridiculously low. Hunters wouldn't use the gun, though, because most game requires a .223. I'd love to see you try to bring down an elk or a bear with a 9mm. Not a good idea. Small game might be acceptable but usually a .22 is prefered.
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Post by yonathanho on Apr 6, 2007 18:51:44 GMT 8
if you were to engage a submerged target (river or pond) a 9mm would be preferable, good water penetration and has some stopping power. larger calibers wouldnt reach a submerged target
edit: ...like a submerged ZOMBIE!!
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Post by Arclight on Apr 7, 2007 0:01:50 GMT 8
Hey now, I was only offering ideas.
And whats this crap about 9mm over-penetrating a human torso? I think not.
9mm do not over-penetrate the human body, it has no wear near enough power to do so UNLESS it only clips, but then any bullet can do that.
9mm have no stopping power because they are inherantly a patheticaly low-powered round (for practical combat use anyway). They're used in pistols, as you say, because they are accurate (but also the low power cartridge gives for less wear and tear, and safer long term use, for mass-deployment use like military and law enforcement).
Sure, of course you don't use 9mm on Elk, but with small-game hunters have been know to use unusualy low calibers purely to make things more interesting.
So yeah, I'm not arguing, I'm jsut saying that I'm just trying to think up random excuses for a long barrel MP5.
If you must know, I hate the 9mm round, I think it's useless (an opinion shared by a vast majority of military and law enforcement, with the exception of street cops who appreciate the safer option of the 9mm in some situations, but even then, the growing gun culture in most western countries is starting to change even those opinions).
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Post by woozie on Apr 7, 2007 0:36:06 GMT 8
I think what make the bullet powerful or not is the gun powder...
Woozie
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Post by Arclight on Apr 10, 2007 22:51:54 GMT 8
Meh, partly.
Bullet powder mass, packing density, grain type and composition.
Projectile mass and dimensions, gun's breach and barrel.
Then there's a whole seperate issue of penetration characteristics, mommentum transfer and energy dissapation when a bullet strikes the target, of course; which is defined by the physical and energetic properties of the round and the target.
That generaly makes up the basic fundementals of defining the characteristics of a ballistic projectile strike.
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