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Post by demiurge on Feb 17, 2007 7:16:10 GMT 8
What do u think is the BEST airsoft pistol out there?
Debate
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sirrith
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Post by sirrith on Feb 17, 2007 11:53:09 GMT 8
CAW kampf pistol ;D
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 17, 2007 14:37:50 GMT 8
HFC M190.
Most durable chunk of metal ever.
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Post by Arclight on Feb 17, 2007 19:59:58 GMT 8
My USP would be if the damn thing had extra parts and upgrades.
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GruntGuy
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Post by GruntGuy on Feb 17, 2007 20:49:35 GMT 8
Oh? So if I was thinking on buying a pistol, what would you all recommend? I need something nicely sized and balanced, good performance, and low maintenance.
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Post by demiurge on Feb 17, 2007 21:59:34 GMT 8
lol CAW kamft.... how fast can u reload that thing? could u beat a m9 guy with a caw kamft u rekon?
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Post by Arclight on Feb 17, 2007 23:10:48 GMT 8
KSC Glock 17.
Simple, reliable, performance is good enough (jsut rememebr to upgrade the power) and fairly economical.
The only issues really with the said pistol is a clip loading issue, but thats a simple fix (the problem lies in the clip itself, you have to file the top edges a tad sometimes to ensure a good fit).
Glock is highly accesorisable, clips are common and parts are common and as such maintenance cost is relativley low and the potential for repair costs are also relatively low.
It may not be the perfect weapon, but it is one of the best all-rounders when you're looking for a sidearm.
Bare in mind that to me a sidearm is strictly a back-up out doors or a primary indoors. The result being that power and accuracy at range is not critial but reliability and durability is.
Well, thats my opinion anyway.
FYI, never choose full-auto capable gas pistols. Engineering 101: With more moving parts there are more things to go wrong, aplified more so when the damn thing is shuddering under green gas fire. Even keeping it in single, full-auto pistols are just more expensive and more prone to issues for your trouble.
As for these fancy race guns, yes the performance might be very good BUT you have to take good care of it. It's not bashable like a sidearm should be. Race guns are good as an indoor pistol game primary, but otherwise I suggest your first pistol should be a conventinal sidearm (choosen for ruggedness rather then power or accuracy).
In the end, it really coems down to your choice; are you of the school of thought that prefers a good shooter or a safe shooter? This doesn't mean you can't have both, but it's safe to say that every pistol comprimises one for the other (unless its equaly crap of course) so you have to decide first if you want a sidearm or a pistol.
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GruntGuy
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Post by GruntGuy on Feb 18, 2007 7:05:51 GMT 8
Much thanks for that Matt, I was also considering the HFC M190, because I know that's also a very reliable pistol. Does the KSC G17 have a metal slide?
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Post by sirrith on Feb 18, 2007 9:29:11 GMT 8
lol CAW kamft.... how fast can u reload that thing? could u beat a m9 guy with a caw kamft u rekon? in a place where pistols are meant to be used, definitly. i have spread advantage, so basically its impossible for me to miss at those ranges, whereas the m9 guy has a lot more chance to miss. why m9 guy anyway? why not say glock guy or sig guy?
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Post by Arclight on Feb 18, 2007 19:09:41 GMT 8
KSC's do indeed have a metal slide option; fully upgradable to take green gas they do, yes. And I persoanly don't count the kampf as a pistol, it's a compact launcher as far as Im concerend. A glock may not quite be as overwhelming as the kampf, but after you shoot one guy and another comes round the corner OR maybe you jsut missed the first time (it happens, even with a kampf)....the kampf you gotta fiddle with a reload, with a glock you jsut shoot again and again and again.... Gas grenades can jam, missfire, leak, break, etc. Gas pistols can to, but not as often. IF you're harcore serious about getting a launcher, jsut get a mos-molds mini launcher and stick it on your glock/M9; then you get the best of both worlds.
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Post by sirrith on Feb 18, 2007 21:36:34 GMT 8
but it says pistol so I count it as a pistol, hehe true bout that, but the example given was 1 v 1 without talk of what happens after ;D they jam and misfire? i didnt know that never had mine jam/misfire on me before.. (m203, not kampf) haha, i had a launcher, you were gonna buy it, remember? but if i have to choose a 'normal' pistol, then i dont know.
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Post by demiurge on Feb 18, 2007 23:06:23 GMT 8
matt raises a fair point on auto pistols, my M93R is a bit dodgy which let to my demise to matt in arena.
But with the glowing review of that HFC m190. That gun is auto... does it fail often?
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Post by Arclight on Feb 18, 2007 23:45:42 GMT 8
I don't know first hand, but I doubt it's as relaible as it's single firing counter part; the whole full-auto issues thing is really a universal law.
Even on priemium real-steel weaponry, no matter how stable the full-auto weapon is, it's not as reliable as it's single-only counter part.
Though true, I suppose it depends on how much you're willing to tolerate; I suppose full-auto gas pistols must be stable enough for some people.
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Post by malavern on Feb 19, 2007 6:18:29 GMT 8
Matt as much as i agree with you, but it looks like you've been copying and pasting stuff... no offense intended...
Grunt, you've seen my glock23 right? Thats KSC, good quality, Gas blowback Full metal slide... I've been using that gun for wat 5 years now, dropeed it so many times i lost count, and it still works perfectly.
the only thing you really need to check up on every now and then is the Mags, the gas valve may leak if you drop it too many times, and you must keep the O-ring nice and moist with gas, even ehwn not using, or it'll crack real fast (that goes for all gas guns).
Glocks arent as accurate as other pistols, but damn are they rugged. No need to worry about external hammers, very little small parts, standard field strip takes only 5 seconds, with only 4 parts (body included). spray a bit of silicon, put it back together, and that'll be ready to go again in a total of 30 seconds!
If you want a very accurate, but slightly less rugged Glock, look for the MGC Liquid Gas-Charge systems. Not sure if they make em anymore though!
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Post by demiurge on Feb 19, 2007 8:01:10 GMT 8
glock's are for pussies. aestetically they look like a brick.
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Post by Arclight on Feb 19, 2007 18:43:16 GMT 8
I didn't copy and paster a single bit, it's 100% me. You see mal, some people actualy know things.
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Post by Goliath on Feb 19, 2007 19:17:02 GMT 8
HFC Semi only GBB M9s.
Metal as stock, reliable, accurate and works.
Plus they come in "90two" form now, which is sexlicious in the extreme.
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