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Post by fayyerng on Apr 1, 2008 21:53:11 GMT 8
I was in KWS the other day and liked the look of a China made SA80-L85. Not sure the version number but it had blowback feature. Felt good in the hand and I don't mind the bullpup look.
I was just wondering if anybody has used this model before or had any experience with similar blowback type weapons (if there are any)?
I'm keen on picking one up, bit am a bit worried about breakages and jams in a game scenario situation. I heard you can disable the blowback feature but it would be cool to be able to use it, as long as it can take a 9.6v battery.
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Post by Ferox on Apr 1, 2008 22:04:55 GMT 8
Maybe you're talking about the Army R85A1? We have a thread about it over here: www.aaobliterators.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=airsoft&action=display&thread=1182685150A few people have it. It's up to 1.3 joules now rather than the standard 0.8 it started at, and the original problems have been sorted, but here is something to mull over before you purchase: At one china shop, they have 3 prices, 1st price is lowest, but you're not allowed to test fire it... Next price is higher, and you're allowed to test fire it before you purchase it, and then the final highest price, you can test fire it and have a free set of spare parts for the motor.... Odd or what? Anyway, I might purchase one soon, but I'd rather go through our trusted gun runner FC rather than going through these guys who are extra dodgy and like to mark up the price 10-15%! Also, the blowback feature is great, but I've heard from an owner of the gun that it's damn noisy, so you're liable to give your position away as soon as you shoot. Not for stealth players! Finally, it uses Armalite magazines at 400 something rounds, I'm using one currently for my M4A1, a bit tight but otherwise okay. But that means any smaller M4 or M16 mags you use will be loose in the rifle, so be aware, lest they start dropping out mid game if you intend to share magazines between guns.
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Post by malavern on Apr 1, 2008 23:16:44 GMT 8
btw, if you do get the blowback version, make sure nothing will jam the blowback feature, or it'll easily F*** up your gears inside...
even a twig could jam the thing up!!
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Post by fayyerng on Apr 3, 2008 13:28:31 GMT 8
Thanks for the info guys.
That is weird pricing scheme the offerred you Ferox. I won't buy a gun unless i test fire it first.
So FC is the clan gun runner eh. Does one order through a post on the site or contact him direct?
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Post by Ferox on Apr 3, 2008 13:42:18 GMT 8
That's the actual price they put up on the box displayed against the wall. When it first came out, the motor was as FC said: only thing i know.... is its been delayed... due to the gearbox being as good as... a tennis racket... in a soft turd fight... ;D So a lot of people in the know lost confidence in it before it even came out. This is their solution to boost sales. In a situation where it does break while on the field, I beleive you can use PSG-1 gear and piston set in order to get it sorted. FC can be contacted directly through PM or MSN usually does it.
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Post by Arclight on Apr 3, 2008 15:32:44 GMT 8
If ya ask me, an added blow-back system for an AEG is just one more thing to break down and f#ck up your gun. I say wait a few years, let a few more companies start putting out more AEGBB guns out and wait for a few more reviews, improvements and give the technology a chance to develop.
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Post by Fightingcock on Apr 3, 2008 19:09:10 GMT 8
lol... aye... remember that. since then i gave shipped a few more. semied a G&G and a ARMY one... and they both have the same small problem of... they have a tendency to jam on single fire. which isn't a big thing... as to unjam you fire on full auto and its fixed. Unless you live in NZ... and you L85 is semi only... then your fucked... lol. the one good thing that the L85 does have... and 99% of the other airsoft guns don't have... is a spring decompressing button. ;D but other than that... i know nothing. FC
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Post by malavern on Apr 3, 2008 20:32:49 GMT 8
one of the guys i know informed me that you can actually disconnect the blowback system on the L85, and as for the jamming, you need to pack the barrel with foam as to reduce wobbling... thus reducing the chance for it to jam... though if it does jam... as FC says F/A should clear it out..
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Post by fayyerng on Apr 3, 2008 21:13:15 GMT 8
mmmm, the consensus seems to be hold off until glitches are sorted. I'll be visiting KWS tomorrow for a wee gander at all the goodies. Hopefully I can hold off. Maybe i'll just get some new pants instead. Mind you, I don't actually have a sniper rifle yet. mmmmmm
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Post by Ferox on Apr 3, 2008 21:43:23 GMT 8
mmmm, the consensus seems to be hold off until glitches are sorted. I'll be visiting KWS tomorrow for a wee gander at all the goodies. Hopefully I can hold off. Maybe i'll just get some new pants instead. Mind you, I don't actually have a sniper rifle yet. mmmmmm When I buy mine, I'll let you know and will rip it apart and inspect the goods. I'll willing to bite the bullet for such a purrdy gun. Sniper rifle? Those are in a whoooole different thread ;D
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Post by fayyerng on Apr 3, 2008 21:47:13 GMT 8
which thread, which thread?
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Post by Ferox on Apr 3, 2008 22:05:50 GMT 8
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Post by Fightingcock on Apr 3, 2008 22:29:37 GMT 8
i gtg get a L86 tomorrow... $4800... glad i'm not paying for it.. ;D FC
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Post by malavern on Apr 3, 2008 22:45:22 GMT 8
mmmm, the consensus seems to be hold off until glitches are sorted. I'll be visiting KWS tomorrow for a wee gander at all the goodies. Hopefully I can hold off. Maybe i'll just get some new pants instead. Mind you, I don't actually have a sniper rifle yet. mmmmmm Go get yourself some 5.11 gear at Supreme Co... good quality pants... at the more expensive range, but very very good. All of my black civilian gear is 5.11 from cap to boots... the only thing that i wear during civ clothing games that isnt 5.11, is my briefs... yea i wear tighty-whiteys!
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Post by Ferox on Apr 4, 2008 0:19:57 GMT 8
Sniper links up.
/thread unless people want to talk about L85s
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Post by yonathanho on Apr 4, 2008 17:53:46 GMT 8
second sniper link is the same as the first
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