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Post by Dingo on May 3, 2008 18:48:20 GMT 8
after witnessing the havoc LSW(light support weapon aka Light machine gun) is it practical in an airsoft game?
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Post by Arclight on May 3, 2008 21:24:25 GMT 8
It depends on your definition of an LSW, your natural preferences and how you plan to play with it.
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Post by billy on May 5, 2008 20:25:01 GMT 8
lol
well... ask the brit squaddies... but the general response could and may well be... "not really".
I actually just typed out a long response about the british LSW...
then I realised you were talking about BB guns...
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Post by Arclight on May 5, 2008 20:50:49 GMT 8
Well, if Dingo is talking about the actual L86 LSW (as he didn't specify, just said "LSW", which could be jsut about anything with a drum )... ...just like the real one, your ONLY plus is the long barrels addative to range and accuracy, which is not worth it considering the massive weight and general encumbrance of proportions that it adds. If you want somthing for range/accuracy, there are better options. If you want something for squad support, there are better options.
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Post by Goliath on May 5, 2008 22:20:39 GMT 8
Actually, the L86 LSW is going to be kept as a DMR rifle, specifically because it has a bit more range and accuracy than the standard l85, whilst keeping part commonality.
To be honest though, we should switch to something that isn't a huge pile of fail. Like The G36 series.
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Post by malavern on May 6, 2008 0:18:33 GMT 8
he already has a G36... but whether or not he has figured out how to clean the barrel yet or not, is an entirely different matter... wonder if he's figured out that he cant wash the gun yet...
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Post by Arclight on May 6, 2008 12:50:57 GMT 8
GAH I think people are mixing up airsoft with real steel. I think it's safe to say that Dingo is talking about airsoft, not the actual L86. That said, DINGO, GET YOUR FAT ASS IN HERE. You need to be more specific with your question other wise we will continue to babble incoherantly untill we can be sure we all know what it is that your are actualy asking.
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Post by Dingo on May 6, 2008 22:59:00 GMT 8
course i m talking of airsoft
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Post by Dingo on May 6, 2008 23:02:15 GMT 8
he already has a G36... but whether or not he has figured out how to clean the barrel yet or not, is an entirely different matter... wonder if he's figured out that he cant wash the gun yet... so wat?! i think getting a backup gun is not a crime is it... me wanting 2 experiment with different types of airsofting stuff doesnt reli affect u... and no i dont stick it in water i may not b an expert but i can figure that out easily...
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Post by Arclight on May 7, 2008 0:16:59 GMT 8
Ok, it airsoft terms, theres no real reason to get the L86 LSW other then personal taste. As I have said, if you want a DMR then there are better options (cheaper, better range/accuracy, more mod options). If you want a support weapon, the LSW doesn't take drums or box mags so thats not useful at all. So if you really want one, bare in mine that your choice wouldn't be a practical one but meerly that you wanted it badly enough. If you want to experiment that I suggest going for somthing more conventional so you can get a handle on the basics. An Armalite (M4/M16 guns), G3 or AK series of weapons are all highly versatile with far more options for mods (both technicals and aesthetics) and all 3 are capable of being modded into competant airsoft light support weapons (I stress on the "light" there as it'll pretty much be a regular AEG with a drum/box, though you have many options in terms of length, stocks, etc.). Basing on a Chinese weapon is nice and cheap and will get the job done BUT to mod up costs more. AEGs are around 300-700 depending on the exact one and boxes/drums are on the lower end of that same price scale, so adding a few internal mods and a scope could set you back $1200 or more. A budget version could probably keep it under 1k, but it would basicaly be China stock + big mag. If you want a true support weapon, then only a SAW will do. M249, M240 and M60 serieses are the only weapons that can really make the cut and even then the cheapest and most easily available is the A&K M249 series which are around $1200 ish without mods. Further mods are nice but not entirely neccesary if you just want a play (unlike me, who heavily modded mine but only because I'm a serious SAW gunner). So really, as with alot of airsoft weapon projects, the main thing is what YOU want out of an LSW. Looks, Cheap, Effective, or some compromised combination of the 3.
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 0:22:49 GMT 8
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Post by malavern on May 7, 2008 1:15:00 GMT 8
he already has a G36... but whether or not he has figured out how to clean the barrel yet or not, is an entirely different matter... wonder if he's figured out that he cant wash the gun yet... so wat?! i think getting a backup gun is not a crime is it... me wanting 2 experiment with different types of airsofting stuff doesnt reli affect u... and no i dont stick it in water i may not b an expert but i can figure that out easily... FFS you large pile of lard, READ MY FETHING POST!! [/color][/quote] I didnt say anything about you not being allowed to get a backup gun... Fething 'tard
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Post by Arclight on May 7, 2008 9:29:58 GMT 8
hmm... sounds like a wonderful weapon... You are being sarcastic right? You did read the great big post about how the LSW is just for looks and just about anything else is better right? You do realise that no one on this thread has said anything good about the airsoft L86 LSW right? I hope so...
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Post by Goliath on May 7, 2008 11:22:12 GMT 8
hmm... sounds like a wonderful weapon... You are being sarcastic right? You did read the great big post about how the LSW is just for looks and just about anything else is better right? You do realise that no one on this thread has said anything good about the airsoft L86 LSW right? I hope so... I dunno, I can't understand a single malformed abortion that is one of his posts. Dingo: If you want to be a Machinegunner, you'll need lots of cash, and have to lug a really heavy bastard of a gun around. Given you can barely go ONE game with a tiny and light g36c, I'd not recommend getting any LSW. Go get fit instead.
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 12:04:54 GMT 8
hmm... sounds like a wonderful weapon... You are being sarcastic right? You did read the great big post about how the LSW is just for looks and just about anything else is better right? You do realise that no one on this thread has said anything good about the airsoft L86 LSW right? I hope so... first and foremost i wasnt being sarcastic. second i never sed L86... i was thinking of an M249 or an MG36 ak series sounds a bit too big to me L86 looks looks a tad bulky
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 12:07:34 GMT 8
so wat?! i think getting a backup gun is not a crime is it... me wanting 2 experiment with different types of airsofting stuff doesnt reli affect u... and no i dont stick it in water i may not b an expert but i can figure that out easily... FFS you large pile of lard, READ MY FETHING POST!! [/color][/quote] I didnt say anything about you not being allowed to get a backup gun... Fething 'tard[/quote] dude if u read the title it says Is an LSW a practical weapon? Not start flaming get it sheesh...
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 12:09:25 GMT 8
You are being sarcastic right? You did read the great big post about how the LSW is just for looks and just about anything else is better right? You do realise that no one on this thread has said anything good about the airsoft L86 LSW right? I hope so... I dunno, I can't understand a single malformed abortion that is one of his posts. Dingo: If you want to be a Machinegunner, you'll need lots of cash, and have to lug a really heavy bastard of a gun around. Given you can barely go ONE game with a tiny and light g36c, I'd not recommend getting any LSW. Go get fit instead. fair enough and i m still trying 2 stop smoking i m sure thatll help but every time i see ppl with a ciggie i want 1 as well dunno y
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Post by Arclight on May 7, 2008 14:56:06 GMT 8
Ok, then stop using "LSW" then as that makes refrence to the L86 in particular. Just say support weapon or SAW. And yes, a true SAW costs money and requires alot of effort to use effectivley. If you want to play squad support with minimum repercussions, I suggest you just slap a drum on your G36c, 2500 round eletric c-mag should do okay for you. The drum option is more flexible, cheaper and easier for you. When you get tired or have had enough you can just switch back to a regualr mag. A G36c with drum is good enough for squad support (not great, but can be done) and still small and lightweight enough for close quarters. Remember, a true support gunner's job is not about the kills, it's about keeping the enemy pinned down so that your team mates can assault/fall back/sweep and clear as needed. Which reminds me, I really should start those damn airsoft class guides.
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 21:42:14 GMT 8
Ok, then stop using "LSW" then as that makes refrence to the L86 in particular. Just say support weapon or SAW. And yes, a true SAW costs money and requires alot of effort to use effectivley. If you want to play squad support with minimum repercussions, I suggest you just slap a drum on your G36c, 2500 round eletric c-mag should do okay for you. The drum option is more flexible, cheaper and easier for you. When you get tired or have had enough you can just switch back to a regualr mag. A G36c with drum is good enough for squad support (not great, but can be done) and still small and lightweight enough for close quarters. Remember, a true support gunner's job is not about the kills, it's about keeping the enemy pinned down so that your team mates can assault/fall back/sweep and clear as needed. Which reminds me, I really should start those damn airsoft class guides. [ Hmm.. i should think of getting a longer barrel with increased accuracy as well so as 2 fit in better teh drum mag o and a scope for finding tangos
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Post by Goliath on May 7, 2008 22:18:26 GMT 8
Is it so hard to type and NOT butcher the language? This is a text-based medium, FFS.
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Post by Dingo on May 7, 2008 23:12:41 GMT 8
a matter of habit
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Post by malavern on May 8, 2008 15:21:59 GMT 8
change your bloody habits... yes i know they take time, but starting instead of just talking about it will really help...
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Post by Noa on Jun 17, 2008 0:25:53 GMT 8
my cents as an M249 SAW owner... It's the sheer ammo capacity over everyone else. That's it. And the ability to pump out round after round without worrying about your pistons burning to plastic goo. Ever counted how many rounds you can fire with a SAW? Your smile gets bigger once you start reaching about 1231 rounds AND still counting. THEN you lose count at near 1700 rnds and well fk it you know you got another HALF the drum mag to still shoot. What you SHOULD be thinking then is, "is the guy hit yet?" Now I think THAT is a support weapon. Big drum & non-stop firing capability Useful in wargame? Hell yeah. - You just have a choice of looking the part or not.
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Post by Dingo on Jun 17, 2008 0:36:58 GMT 8
well malavern once sed that my size is a support weapons size plus my gut... so yeh would want to get a weapon like that oneday
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Post by Noa on Jun 17, 2008 0:47:01 GMT 8
A&K M249 is a 100% copy of the CA and at the price of a TM AEG ;D
Got two M249 Para's up in the UK and the sound activated box mag is a MUST.
4 box mags are in my to buy list.
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Post by Fightingcock on Jun 17, 2008 3:32:38 GMT 8
lol.... are you going to try akimbo saws ? ;D your'll have too... at least for pic's FC
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Post by milkkart on Jun 17, 2008 9:47:23 GMT 8
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Post by Dingo on Jun 17, 2008 11:05:48 GMT 8
o please
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