The Obliterator

[billy]

frankensoft... Jin's got every gun released in airsoft so I bet he's just venturing into the unknown.

Undead AEGs zomg keke

he's got mine anyway

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on a serious note? I'd love to play with cosmetic modding to "streamline" the looks of mutant guns. Just need time, money and directions.

[Magiaz]

"frankensoft"

I lol'd, and I like and approve where this thread is going.

So to tl;dr summarise so far:

The G36c will be the base gun. Instead of attaching a low power smg underneath the handguard of a G36c, we're going to attach a high power F2000/OICW over the top of a low power, high rate of fire G36c.

This gives high power for long range, and low power spam for superior close range ability. This also leaves the hand-guard free for a hand grip (as in Noa's jpg) or a grenade launcher (suggested by arclight). Or a flashlight / lasersight / bayonet / backstratcher. Noa also says combining the guns is technically feasible.

As for visual customization, getting some wording written on the side sounds like it won't be much of a problem. Getting a camouflage scheme painted on could be problematic, and hand painting does not sound like an option, especially if we use Hexcam, though we could use stencils / airbrushing. While the G36c / F2000 concept will probably look like the Frankenstein's monster of airsoft, billy says he would be willing to mess around with improving the asethics.

Questions:

Would 2 gearboxes / welding 2 guns together be feasible weight wise?

How much are we looking for cost? For the guns themselves separately, and with enhancing the internals? Then finally we'll need an estimate for the visual upgrades, but I don't think we can get that till we have a prototype.

I assume the F2000 also takes G36 styled mags? Since it would be somewhat annoying carrying around 2 different mag types.

I reckon with paper cut outs, sellotape and spray paint, I could do a decent makeshift woodland camouflage paint scheme on a gun, but tigerstrip / hexcam would be too difficult for me at least.

[pestexterminator]

F2000 mags look like they m4 mags - i dunno, but if thts the case, then no, the f2000 can't take G36 type mags- but u can reverse it to go the other way - u can mod G36 to take m4 mags - somthn like tht

[Ninja]

Noa:

F2000 uses M4 mags.

Everything on the gun besides the shooting is aesthetic. So hackability is great.

Then sticking the G36C below will be fine.

Weight wise, it will be lighter than my AG36 cuz the F2000 is not that heavy. The G36C I felt was heavier.

It won't be your typical MP5 weight

[Ninja]

Noa at Jimmy's home:

Cost wise, the only internals you'd need to upgrade is the F2000's (AUG gearbox) to 1.9J.

Both guns are china made = cheap!

Whether customizing can be done without much hassle, who knows, I'll find out in December

Camouflage wise, a simple OD/Brown spray paint will suffice. Nothing fancy at the moment is best. The OICW will be so big, a matt black color will stick out too much.

But feel free to try it out yourself if you can't wait, anyone.

As Billy said... I'm venturing into new areas in airsoft.

Got my gear finished HK side. My guns are fine. I've stepped over my boundary thanks to China guns. Just this summer I bought the UMP, G36C, M4, M4 CQBR, EBR, M14.

I'm thinking about moving onto 'specialising' or 'fine tuning'. Maybe go Goliathy and put all my gearboxes into overhaul simply because I can?

Whats for certain, I'm into custom making guns/bazookas and spray painting (EBR recently got spray painted into a lovely OD & brown).

Then later spend quality time working on my 3rd ghillie suit.
Got a lot of time here to use up

[Goliath]

The F2000 is a bastard to upgrade, btw - Modified Ver 2 but has a LOT of problems internally.

[malavern]

how did Magi get so tech savvy?

great ideas though ppl

[Magiaz]

I was with Fer when Noa was showing him some stuff about his M4, and he explained how the internals worked. Also I watched Noa work on my SL8 several times, and picked up some of the basics. I can't really do anything to a gun, but I know how things work conceptually.

Other than that, I'm just reiterating what everyone else has already said. Just summarising things so anyone new doesn't have to read through the whole thread, keep things on topic etc. since this thread is relevant to my interests.

[Ferox]

"Teliko" needs a lot of work.

Double Elephant is shit, but this takes the cake.

Parts are missing, including the safety catch and a small spring, of which only the spring can be replaced, so this thing has no safety.

2 parts are broken as well, and then there is the part that Mo Leung busted.

Finally, the gearbox is totally misaligned, and will need to be replaced.

Basically it's in too poor shape to use, let alone upgrade. Chris recommends we just buy an entire G36K gearbox, and replace all the internals, this will at least give us a replacement safety....

All in all, this is turning into a saga worthy of it's own sci-fi trilogy...and about as expensive as one as well...

I'm paying for the damaged parts to be replaced, beyond that, until we figure something out, it's pretty much staying as is.

Thoughts?

[Magiaz]

Unfortunate, to say the least. The options I can see are to either:

a) salvage and sell the remaining functional parts, and scrap the project.

b) salvage what we can, and maybe go for Jin's G36c/F2000 idea, or a new project entirely.

c) reinvest in Teliko and try again.

The main question is are the remains worth investing in? If it means get a full new set of internals, then I might just be better off with trying Jin's idea, which seems a better thought out alternative for the 'two guns, one firearm" concept.

Then again, the only thing I'm really lacking in my armoury is a generic high powered rifle, which I want so I can compete effectively in higher powered games and to hunt the undead with (since with my 1J and 1.3J guns, they really don't seem to care much).

I was kind of hoping to get both a high powered rifle and my two gun idea in one go, but I think I'm probably being a bit too ambitious.

How is the body and the barrel? As long as those are fine, I think its worth going for at least a generic 1.6 with the 36k gearbox. Maybe leave the project until later. But I'd really rather keep the gun, seeing as it now has a history and a background I can bore my fellows with, even if it doesn't turn out to be anything spectacular.

[Goliath]

The main problem with the SL8 is that it's a BE. Which means it's not terribly good with compatibility with other brands such as JG/TM/CA.

Personally, I'd scrap it. If you want a good high-powered anti-zombie gun, get a CYMA M14 and I'll upgrade it to 2J for you - giving you an insanely accurate and powerful gun.

[Magiaz]

2J is a bit too much for my liking. Effectiveness or otherwise, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be gaming with something that can hurt way more than it should, unless I reserve it particularly for zombies.

What would I be looking at in terms of cost? Also, would there be any other suitable bodies? I'm not really fond of the M14 (from an aesthetic persepective).

[Arclight]

IS the CYMA M14 propa accurate is it?

I might have to add it to the list for the future, an alternate "cheap" Sniper option to the L96 (which, lets be honest, bolt actions aren't great for airsoft most of the time ).

[malavern]

Apr 17, 2008 21:48:29 GMT 8 Magiaz said:

2J is a bit too much for my liking. Effectiveness or otherwise, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be gaming with something that can hurt way more than it should, unless I reserve it particularly for zombies.

What would I be looking at in terms of cost? Also, would there be any other suitable bodies? I'm not really fond of the M14 (from an aesthetic persepective).

If you leave it as a single shot only aeg, (i.e. remove auto fire function, in case you get itchy), and use it specifically as a DMR, then its all good. Hell you can even stick a trigger limiter on it so you cant fire as fast as usual.
Doing that, is basically like getting a bolt-action sniper rifle, without the hassle of pulling the bloody bolt back everytime... all you need to do is invest in a nice scope (400-500 hkd) and a Tightbore with a better hopup rubber, then you're all good to go!

[Magiaz]

An interesting option, although I'm not really after a sniper / DMR role. I prefer to get close and personal (RIP AND TEAR, RIP AND TEAR!), just that I dislike being constantly out ranged, and unable to take best advantage when I do end up flanking successfully. Sucks to run around the side, and see an enemy looking away, completely exposed, and unable to hit him.

My g3a3 does that fine for me at the moment, just if I join in a higher powered game I'll need something to match, since the relative ranges will increase.

Thanks for the advice all. I think I'll end up just putting it up to 1.6 and leaving it at that. After all the time and trouble, be nice to get at least something basic out of it.

[Dingo]

hmmm.... reading all the ideas... would b a great airsoft day if we can actually implement all of the guns above... it would do more than just the usual bloodshed i m sure it would b massacre... still my fav is still teh first gun ferox and magiaz came up w/

[Ferox]

Tried to assemble the SL8



The G36C rail doesn't fit, it needs to be filed/cut badly just to get over the front part, and even then the real parts aren't in the correct place and might need to be redrilled just to line up the screws, so that's the original SL8 rail on top, in all it's plastic glory.

Keep in mind the internals are not completed, although the gearbox is fine, the safety and semi doesn't work (it's always auto at 1.9 lol) and some of the plates are missing, but otherwise, it assembles fine! ;D

Maybe you can mount it on your wall like a big bass "The one that got away and this is a replica of what might have been " lol

[yonathanho]

start from scratch?

the BE G36s are not 100.0% copies of the standard G36 AEG

[Magiaz]

"still my fav is still teh first gun ferox and magiaz came up w/"

Which I've actually been building on and off for more than a year now, between my occasionally returns to HK. Unfortunately, looks like its not going to happen any time soon, since the thing practically self destructs every time the trigger is pulled, even though I got a completely fresh set of internals when I bought it.

"rail doesn't fit, it needs to be filed"

The intention was to file it to fit in the first place.

"the real parts aren't in the correct place"

Is that for the rail or the main body?

"some of the plates are missing"

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"start from scratch?"

So your saying just get a fresh 36c and then put the SL8 body around it? Or just change to the F2000 idea?

[yonathanho]

that's up to you. JG is much better than BE in both internals and externals.

[Fightingcock]

mmm.... i'm considering... obliterators
both similar... short and sweet
just got to sort battery locations...

FC